Question by wanderin` wonderer: why is it bad that russia wants to recognize the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
i think it would be one thing if they wanted to gobble up those territories, but those place are looking to seek independence from Georgia. the area has been a hostile zone for years. i mean i understand that georgia is deprived of territory and taxes, but i dont see how russia is gaining here.
why is russia aiding these renegades?
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Answer by heartless
Oil and Oil Rights.
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Seraphiel says
It is true that America is a big supporter of Georgia. Georgia isn't a NATO member but unlike other non-NATO members Georgia is allowed to arm their soldiers with NATO-equipment. Georgia is also allowed to display the EU flag whenever they want to without them being a member of EU. So clearly Georgia and its citizens are being used by NATO and EU who have sponsored the rose-revolution in Georgia to give power to their puppet Saakashvili. In stead of the normal economic growth procedure by being friendly and signing trade agreements with your nearest neighbours (read Russia) Saakashvili single handedly turned the Georgian nation in a Russian hating country of nothing only to please NATO and EU. There is 80% anti-russian propaganda on state-radio and television. 15 percent is Georgian and other affairs. 5 percent is about the Georgian economy.
The biggest problem Georgia has is its attitude towards their minority population mainly living in Abkhazia and South Ossetia. One could wonder why so many of the Georgian minority population lives in these areas. Well because they have always lived their. In fact those areas where independent from Georgia until Stalin got a splendid (NOT) idea to give Georgia political control over Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Since the 1920's Ossetians and Abkhaz people had to deal with an almost fascistic like treatment from their Georgian government. They don't want Ossetians and Abkhaz-people on what Georgia says is there land. This way of thinking from the middle-ages continues in Georgia but also in Ossetia and Abkhazia.
NATO and EU want Georgia to be a stable country in order to have stability in the region where their important oil-and gass-pipes go. The only pipes from the middle east that don't go through Russia.
Saakashvili being very keen on pleasing NATO and just having finished a large scale military exercise with the US inside Georgia felt confident that he could get rid of the Ossetians and Abkhaz-people ones and for all by executing a large scale genocide attempt against the Ossetian population. Saakashvili thought he could get all the support from the US. But unfortunately he only got support from CNN not covering the news until Russia entered the Roki-tunnel 28 hours later. Making CNN the propaganda machine of the US by stating that it was Russia who attacked Georgia and not Georgia attacking it's own minority population. Luckily investigations from EU and other organisations now can tell the truth by at least stating that Georgia was the aggressor. But off course they have the political duty to blame Russia as well by stating that Russia used excessive force in their attempt to save the Ossetians for the third time from a genocide attempt.
Why Russia is now in South Ossetia and Abkhazia is because Russia has a huge advantage in a military point of view to have their military stationed at the south side of the Caucasus mountains. Remember that only way to reach the south part of the Caucasus mountains for military equipment is by air, sea and the roki-tunnel. The roki-tunnel going from North Ossetia (in russia) to South Ossetia (in what some people think is Georgia).
By being friends with Abkhazia and South Ossetia (giving them what they want, independence, and protection) Russia is able to build huge military bases in Abkhazia (sea access) and South Ossetia (roki-tunnel). They can establish a military presence that can control the south caucasus and hold NATO at ease not being able to give Georgia access to NATO and EU memberships. They have also the NATO EU oil and gas pipes in reach. Which is a strategical advantage in case of one US-NATO general getting strange war-like ideas. At the same time Russia is able to stabilise the region the way they want it. Russia really doesn't care about the Abkhaz and Ossetian population. They are just lifting with the economical growth and stability that Russia is able to provide them.
Saakashvili had yet again made a blunder and this time the blunder was visible for the whole world and not only for the Georgian population. Saakashvili has in his hatred against Russia and his naive political mind, given Russia an enormous gift and embarrassed the US, NATO and EU by showing that he is their whore, that can't control himself. He showed the world that he can't serve his own people and that he can't serve the US and EU. He did show the true face of the US, NATO and EU once more. And we can thank him for that. That is the only thing he managed to give to the world. He opened up the secret agenda of the US, NATO and EU.
Bob T says
There is nothing bad that Russia recognized their independence. South Ossetia and Abkhazia were independent since Soviet Union collapsed, so Gerogia has the same rights to bomb them as Russian to bomb Alaska.
Kairos gar Eggis says
Of course it is not bad! NATO is trying to achieve some other goals than the ones we already know. NATO is operated by the USA and it is the only way for America to have some minor control over Europe.
Currently, in many countries we heard some false information from the media for the status in South Ossetia. All the western media were trying to convince the people that Russia was the number-one guilty for the beginning of the war! But, we all know that Georgia attacked first South Ossetia and Russia just responded and attacked strategic spots in Georgia just to ensure South Ossetia's Peace! So, with this propaganda in their subconsciousness many people start accusing Russia!! As a result, many countries have done what America wanted in NATO. They voted against the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia just because Russia voted for!!
With some information I have, I believe America was behind Georgia's attack in South Ossetia. Many georgian soldiers there were found equipped with some weapons exclusively from NATO! Many soldiers were also hired from America's hiring companies (and other countries) only to participate in the attack of Georgia!
All in all, America of course doesn't want the independence of these areas because America started the war! If the independence was taking place, then Georgia would had a hard time finding a reason for attacking again! (they are independent nations now, why attack??). America forced Georgia to attack with an agreement they made before the war! What is that agreement? (..maybe the last thing Georgia should had done to ensure it's entrance to NATO in near future…)
But why did America want this attack? I strongly believe, by forcing Georgia starting a local war, America's goal was to just test the military power of their main enemy, Russia!! America got a lot of information about the military power of Russia! (In 48 hours Russia cleared this mess already).
To sum up, America feels that the time for a new war is close! What is gonna happen?… Kairos Gar Eggis!!! (Καιρός γαρ Εγγύς). Read some of the greek prophecies that holy men had left during their lifetime in this planet.
PS: I forgot to say that Russia is aiding those areas because 80%-90% of the citizens there have russian passports! That's why Russia considers these areas as part of it's own territory.